Josephcow wrote:But I think it's worthwhile to hide your age as a student. Like you said when you are a young artist you will get a lot of comments like "oh wow you are so good for your age". Well I don't want to be good for a child, I want to just be good, y'know? So if nobody knows how old you are you will get feedback just like anyone else. The downside is you'll probably get less praise, but at least people will look at your art for what it is, not your age.
Yes, this! Age shouldn't have to matter, and everyone should be judged on their art, not relative to their age. I feel like younger artists in their early to mid teens like to put their age because in ways its part of the "subculture" of being a very young, very skilled artist on the internet and it's a marker of belonging to something. I think I felt this way when I was in my early teens, though I wasn't ever as good as my peers I plastered "I'm 13 and I like to draw!" everywhere. The "You're good for your age" comments made me feel good, but now it's just put me in the wrong sort of mindset. These days I am so so careful not to mention my age in any art community, or even beyond that. Stupid fear of being "found out".
azarga wrote:I'm hiding my age on most art related sites for this reason exactly.
People are used to pro- grade artists as young as 16-17, so if one is older than that their artwork should be damn good, obviously.
So I ended up not revealing my age publicly. I get fewer condescending praise this way.
For the same reason I try not to use words "artist" and "art" when I have to speak about myself or things I make. Unfortunately "I make crappy drawings" uses way more characters than "i do art", very uneconomic, it makes me sad.
And I still unconsciously cling to believes I was raised upon, like "adults should be ashamed if they have to learn something new past age 25 - they are incompetent", "you are either skilled at skill from childhood or you shouldn't even try it" and the ultimate "the most important quality of a person is what others think of them" (thanks, mom).
I'm glad you can relate, and I'm also sorry you feel this way as well.
One thing about calling yourself an artist, I was the exact same as you and would never call myself an artist, because I felt like it was insult to those artists who could actually.. y'know... make good art. But if you never even attempt to call yourself an artist and own that label with some confidence, how could you ever see anything you draw as worthy? If you're a crappy drawing maker, that's all your art will ever come to even though you may be very skilled and stuff. I think calling yourself an "artist" can be hard, but an necessary step in gaining more confidence in yourself. Own your shit!
It's something I still struggle with but I am getting a little more comfortable with calling myself an artist, even though i still sometimes feel fraudulent and it's accompanied with thought's of inadequacy. It feels good to say - "I am an artist."
Kam wrote:Well yeah, but I can't do anything about it so what's the point of wasting too much mental energy on it? it's inevitable that sometimes it really gets to me but I just have to remind myself that it is what it is, I don't deserve any better when I was wasting my entire free time on nonsense and didn't learn any skills as I grew up.
I've seen plenty of artists that progressed slowly or started out late (or both) but still eventually got good, it's all about perseverance at the end, but I can't deny that the self doubt ruins me really badly often.
The self-doubt eats at me everyday. I'm not sure how to combat it other than just fuckin picking up that pen/pencil! It will always be there, but I have to ignore it and work through it anyway.
I have my age in my bio, and, maybe in my sketchbook somewhere? I dont know.
I would be more insecure if I was 30 or something, cause then people might have higher expectations.
Even though, it doesn't matter what your age is, it matters how much you've drawn in that time, its nice to sometimes use it as a scapegoat, even though I know I shouldn't
Speaking of all of this.
Your a year younger, and your better than I am in many ways
of how that can work in your benefit. Color me impressed
I judge people based on the way they write online. I know I've always been mistaken for being older than I am (In real life, atleast. im a more of a, "child" on the internet, where I don't have to worry as much about being... emotionally intelligent? I dunno.) so I understand where the whole age thing gets confusing in place with adults.
Dont worry about your age. Especially if your young.
You're still very very young, and one of those in the age bracket I was talking about, the early to late teens. But even at 16 I felt this way - looking at other 16 year olds and feeling like shit. Yeah I can't use my age as a scapegoat anymore hahaha. But as mentioned earlier, it shouldn't ever matter. Let people judge your art based on your art, when I was younger, I wish I had. I wish I had hidden my age and not used it as a scapegoat!
God I sound old.