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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 1:26 pm
by Kuronuma
Heya.

I've been thinking about entering a minor little competition where we're supposed to make an anime related pic for a badge that will ultimately be 33x33mm. So I tried to do something and I would love to hear what you guys think! :)

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Oh yes and we are supposed not to make too many details for it will be quite tiny so please keep that in mind :).

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:43 pm
by Total100
the lines are a bit shaky and you need to color it more. it looks bucket filled. add highlight to the hair, bigger darks etc

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 3:49 pm
by Kuronuma
Yea I'll have to fix the lines.. aand it's not bucket filled :P but I get what you mean :).

By the way I tried something a bit different..

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:17 pm
by Zjacklee
First thing I notice and kind of bothers me by looking at it is the oversized hair. Also the hair doesn't seem like hair. it seems more like a blob on top of the head.
next there are some issues with the anatomy. the way the shoulders seem and the front with her breasts. I can't really see that she has breasts. it's like its flat with the cloth on top.

about the anatomy again.... think of how that collar goes around the neck. you seem to have had trouble placing the clothing there...

the face... i would try to draw her center line. see if everything is in sync. To me it seems skewed. where the nose is, the mouth and the chin.
I don't find the colours very pleasing to look at, at the moment. and your shading doesn't show the form of the subject.

well, hope this helps.

where is that competition? on deviant art?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 4:34 pm
by Kuronuma
Well this is a picture of Major Motoko from Ghost in teh Shell and her hair kinda looks all weird..

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The other things, I'll try to look into it :).
And the competition it's just a minor thing for a anime festival that will be held in the city I live in.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:07 pm
by Zjacklee
this is the character right?
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she has a big bang in the front... that's true.
anime hair is made most of the times a bit bigger then the head, but if you exaggerate it too much it won't look good.
in the old days of anime it was a common thing to do... it is a certain style but you have to be careful how you draw it.

Also notice that the top of the hair is not bigger then the face of the character. :P ( depends of the hairstyle of course... which you have to keep in mind how it's styled )

with the DBZ characters for instance it's obviously going up and pointy. But this one it's more or less resting on the head.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:12 pm
by Kuronuma
Yes well I was going more with the old manga look..

something like this..
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Now I'm wondering if I made a mistake with that, hmm. Also I think I already mentioned it but it will be really tiny in the end so I should just not focus on too many details?

not so sure now :(

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:34 pm
by Zjacklee
Now if you look carefully at this example you are giving me... the hair seems spiky up. it goes with the hairstyle to be high at the top like that. but still notice that it's not much bigger then the face.
the hairstyle you drew seems too smooth at the top.
it's those small details that make the whole difference on the outlook of something. And I do understand that you say it shouldn't have much details, but it should still be readable in a certain way. the shape can not be compromised by simplicity. Only the minor things that you could add as an extra to a drawing like texture for example.

Check chibi's for instance... those don't have much details but I can still see what the hairstyle would be.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:39 pm
by alnoth
why dont chibis have feet? tough part to draw?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:47 pm
by Zjacklee
alnoth wrote:why dont chibis have feet? tough part to draw?


if you look very carefully, this chibi up here has feet. they are pretty small. the point of chibis is to make them as simple as possible. sometimes they don't even have hands. :P

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 5:49 pm
by Kuronuma
Yea. I see now! I'll try to fix the hair now..

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:16 pm
by Total100
Zjacklee wrote:Now if you look carefully at this example you are giving me... the hair seems spiky up. it goes with the hairstyle to be high at the top like that. but still notice that it's not much bigger then the face.
the hairstyle you drew seems too smooth at the top.
it's those small details that make the whole difference on the outlook of something. And I do understand that you say it shouldn't have much details, but it should still be readable in a certain way. the shape can not be compromised by simplicity. Only the minor things that you could add as an extra to a drawing like texture for example.

Check chibi's for instance... those don't have much details but I can still see what the hairstyle would be.
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wow
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14 year old girl just turned into a baby. XD

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:29 pm
by Kuronuma
Soooo I think this is better now? (I'm a bit clueless about the highlight in her hair and also the background... :( )

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*edit: Now I noticed there's something weird going on with her left boob (on the right side of the pic) but that only is when I resize it.. dunno what to do about it :(

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:15 pm
by HMwallghost
please take my crit lightly..
It might not be to your taste, and it's probably just me that thinks these things...
I'm not claiming this is better
please remember IDK how to draw anime hair so some rules may be different.
you might have had a completely different vision for things.so please again
take this lightly

the coloring is better than your original! :D and overall I like it!
There's only a few things that bother me and they're here:
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:41 pm
by Kuronuma
Wow, thanks for the ideas :) I have to fix the collar, cos now I can really see it being way off.

I made some changes though and I think it better.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2013 10:46 pm
by HMwallghost
It IS getting better! Can't wait to see it complete!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 12, 2013 2:27 pm
by Kuronuma
Thanks! ^-^

I wworked on it a bit more tho I'm still not sure about the background. Buuuut I think it looks kinda cool when it's the tiny tiny 33x33mm this way. dunno.

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