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Postby Cucumbre » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:32 am

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Subject title: Rocks, Cliffs, and rain, oh my! Please help im dying

Hey so I'm having trouble with the environment here. Its supposed to be a cliffside, and its in the rain. Anybody here who knows how to draw rocks acceptably? Every time I try I just get overwhelmed and kinda freaked out.
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Postby Mandilor » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:04 am

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I'm a bit confused about that things are suppose to be. Is that a house built into the bottom of a cliff in a forest?

 

Postby fi_le » Mon Dec 31, 2018 11:48 am

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Hi folks!
Personally I'm absolutely horrible at painting rocks, but the last time I heard someone ask this this video came up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFB9FE18POY

When it comes to rain it's always a good idea to ramp up the value contrast on the things that get touched by it. To assist that, you can include horizontal shapes on the ground to indicate puddles that copy the colours above them. If the stone is mildly wet, you can play a bit with a warm light source, like in this photograph:

https://c8.alamy.com/comp/FPR9TG/wet-sh ... FPR9TG.jpg


Good luck with the painting :)

 

Postby CaptainKiryu » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:03 pm

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If it's overwhelming---start smaller. Get some references of smaller rocks and practice rendering them in small studies focusing on the various planes and the way light interacts with them. Then you could do some studies of rocks grouped together---either small ones piled together or larger formations. Think about them in terms of their abstract shapes and simplify the large forms and planes. Once you're comfortable enough there you could study how water reacts to the rocks, but that will add a lot of variability. It looks like you're doing some sort of illustration. You will need to consider what sort of finish you are going for as far as the level of stylization vs. realism. If you have reference---draw what you see and pay attention to things like the values and carefully consider which forms to make important and which to subordinate in detail.

If you are doing it from imagination then you have to consider what sort of rocks you are working on---this is dependent on geography and the types of rock will affect the porosity of them and therefore the values and how they interact with water. You will also have to consider the atmosphere between the "camera" and the environment. Some places rain very lightly with the rain going straight to the ground and being absorbed at a relaxed rate---others rain with fat heavy drops, faster than it can be absorbed by the earth and everything becomes very saturated and reflective---and in some the rain is so thick in the air that it doesn't just go straight to the ground, it instead hangs in the air as well in a mist which obscures the detail of anything the viewer sees. There are a lot of things to consider with something like this, so if you are just starting out and feel overwhelmed, start with reference and study carefully. You're idea is everything---if you don't have an idea to convey it is pretty much impossible to know what you need to express and what technique to use in that expression.

Don't worry about things looking good immediately. Just study---try to have fun---and relax.

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