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Postby CaptainKiryu » Mon May 21, 2018 9:51 pm

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Subject title: An Overall Pattern Critique Would Be Helpful

Like the subject title suggests, I could stand some help with analyzing my drawing problems in a broad way that looks at my long-term patterns.
I'd be grateful if whoever this interests could take a look at the last few posts on my sketchbook thread:
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and lend me some advice on things I do repeatedly that lack appeal or ways one feels I could push myself in drawing.
The posts there cover some of my better drawings over the last few months. I am not really going for a professional goal so finish for me isn't really an issue right now. I am more concerned with making appealing drawings and telling story---usually small ones (which I know I am pretty weak at atm). Any suggested reading or resources would also be appreciated if one feels like it would suit one's critique.
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Postby Josephcow » Mon May 21, 2018 10:20 pm

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Okay well first off, I'll show you two of your images that I think are really good.

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Burst.jpg has really nice design with simple graphic shapes. I like the negative space. The other has good hair and face design, and the presentation is also good.

Though in your most recent post it's not so prevalent, I see you often having strange facial proportions, which I see as a design issue more than a realism issue. A lot of your faces have eyes too close together and/or nose too long. That's something to at least be aware of. I could pick out mistakes in this drawing or that, but these are my general impressions. I do hope you continue, I like where you current stylization is heading.

My only real suggestion is work on your faces. Even though you're going for a stylized face, think about the structure and placement of the features relative to a real skull. Maybe doing some constructive drawings of some skulls would be a good exercise. You could try pushing and pulling the features of it to see how exactly you want to change the proportions. Some more varied views of heads would be good as well, like from above or below, tilted. You have a lot of sketches of similar faces from 3/4 view.

 

Postby CaptainKiryu » Tue May 22, 2018 6:39 am

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Josephcow wrote:Okay well first off, I'll show you two of your images that I think are really good.

Spoiler: show
adamaris%20sketches.jpg

Spoiler: show
burst.jpg


Burst.jpg has really nice design with simple graphic shapes. I like the negative space. The other has good hair and face design, and the presentation is also good.

Though in your most recent post it's not so prevalent, I see you often having strange facial proportions, which I see as a design issue more than a realism issue. A lot of your faces have eyes too close together and/or nose too long. That's something to at least be aware of. I could pick out mistakes in this drawing or that, but these are my general impressions. I do hope you continue, I like where you current stylization is heading.

My only real suggestion is work on your faces. Even though you're going for a stylized face, think about the structure and placement of the features relative to a real skull. Maybe doing some constructive drawings of some skulls would be a good exercise. You could try pushing and pulling the features of it to see how exactly you want to change the proportions. Some more varied views of heads would be good as well, like from above or below, tilted. You have a lot of sketches of similar faces from 3/4 view.


I think I tend to add more finish to digital pieces like those because I abhor the sketching process digitally---contrary wise, sketching traditionally is the fun part of the drawing and the finish is what sucks. I suppose they just don't feel that useful to me---they're just okay looking pictures rather than something that helps show something of a character's personality or story. I don't know why I felt the need to add that---I'm glad to hear I succeeded to some degree with those drawings from a design standpoint.

If it's not too much trouble, could you show me one or two of the pages where you felt the faces were not working? Where you felt they looked too long. So I can analyze their measurements.

I'm not trying to make excuses, but structure at this juncture is second in importance to expression for me. I will try to push things in terms of angles more because I think that pushing that sort of thing might add more of the cartoony dynamism I've been pursuing. Though I suppose working on the angles will lead back to structure to some degree.

Anyhoo---Thank you greatly for the feedback!
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Postby Josephcow » Tue May 22, 2018 5:57 pm

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Sure! Of course different characters can have different proportions, but it's got to fit on the head. But in these, there isn't enough space for the cranium and forehead because of where you're putting the eyes.
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Postby CaptainKiryu » Wed May 23, 2018 11:52 pm

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Josephcow wrote:Sure! Of course different characters can have different proportions, but it's got to fit on the head. But in these, there isn't enough space for the cranium and forehead because of where you're putting the eyes.


Ah yes...
I actually went through a period in the sketchbook/time those drawings are from where my faces were super long because previously my faces and the sketchbook or two before that were far too squat. So it sort of swung too far in the other direction to compensate while I was working on it. I mean, those were from only a few months ago, but that was not my last sketchbook, but the one before that. I think I'm getting past it but it's definitely something I will be very conscious of with new sketches.

Thank you for the help!
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