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Postby forteller11 » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:24 am

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Subject title: Forteller's Sketch Book

Decided to create a sketchbook because it looks like I'm going to be drawing a lot during the summer and I think a public sketchbook will help me improve (and be fun).
PS Any feedback much appreciated.

Coloured version of a previous post I made. Currently my Photoshop isn't willing to cooperate (bugged out), and the Mischief application (however awesome) isn't nearly as versatile when it comes to painting in color, so I'll probably just stick to black and white until I get my Photoshop working again.
Dramatic Head compressed.jpg
I actually turned this into a father's day card lol, which is why the giant face is saying I love you.


More weird big head things, although with this image I was having a really hard time shading the image, especially the chest and torso, so I must not understand the anatomy and planes of that part of the chest or something.
Offering Compressed.jpg
(Btw the completely unrealistic twisting of the hips was intentional.)
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Postby PoopPains » Wed Jun 24, 2015 6:58 am

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wow your drawings are so interesting..
very interesting ideas and they look nice to boot!
my feedback is kind of lackluster but it's what i think ^^

excited to see more posts and progression from you ;)

 

Postby forteller11 » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:56 am

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That's really nice of you,
Thanks!

Also Here's a (giant) tortoise I've been working on, definitely going to practice perspective before I do another one of these.
Tourtoise Compressed.png
Got my Photoshop working again so now I can try to start adding colors to my drawings :).

 

Postby biosphere » Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:39 pm

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Wow that turtle thing is a really hilarious concept. The jets flying over propaganda style and the "rising sun" feeling of the background.

You should label this something you should remake after a few years of practice. Would be very cool to see this with some more mileage on your pencil.

 

Postby Alphawolfin » Thu Jun 25, 2015 6:58 pm

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Your sketches have potential wanna know how awesome it can get so i follow u around then :P
3. Semester now specialise on your strenght... but on what if there are so many? I guess it´s illustration for now.

 

Postby forteller11 » Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:47 am

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Thanks for the support, really appreciate it :)

So I've been reading/watching "Tokyo Ghoul and "Parasite" lately, (both stories featuring creepy humanoid creatures who have a desire to eat human flesh, and are trying to survive in a human society...)
And that really inspired me to draw some creepy humanoid/insect creatures, but whenever I actually get down to draw the ideas in my head my execution is horrible :(
So I've mainly just practicing anatomy stuff over the past couple of days so I can eventually execute my concepts...

But until then here are some of my most interesting sketches:

General Grievous from star wars: (perfect for practicing humanoid, insect-like creatures)
June 25 sketche General Grievous.png
Feel like this image has a different "style"compared to my usually stuff


I don't know why completely but I really like this sketch
June 25 sketch b.png
Unfortunately I could never "un-break" her shoulder lol...


Another humanoid face
June 25 sketch a.png
Was trying to make a face that was creepy but that you could simultaneously empathize with.


Butterfly Man?
June 25 sketch c.jpeg
Wish I weighted my lines appropriately for the foreshortening

 

Postby forteller11 » Mon Jun 29, 2015 6:30 am

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Installed Adobe Flash and played around a bit :)
Practice july 28th ssss.gif

I think it might be good practice for me to try to make an animation where the camera simple rotates around an interesting character...

 

Postby forteller11 » Tue Jun 30, 2015 10:15 am

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Was practicing using 1 point, 2 point and 3 point perspective in actual scenes (with photoshop!!!)...
and I drew this guy:
Perspective 2.jpg
I haven't seen any wieners on the Sycra forum yet so I hope they're allowed lol.

Also this guy:
Climber.jpg

 

Postby Alphawolfin » Thu Jul 02, 2015 12:09 am

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I love the strange motives and perspective u use, absolutely great animation u did! It´s always the proportions that are off and what bothers me while watching ur cool stuff.
Line work... yeah it need variation. Draw thick lines when thing comes near to the viewer and keep it thin the further the object is away. Be more confident to your line and try reduce them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDWK1PWbyS8
at ctrl paint must watch this
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/sketchi ... q=linework
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/fluid-l ... q=linework

Fix ur proportion problems, u need to watch in real life how the lenghts of ur objects are related to each other plus manage good measurement of angles really carefully. Begin here
http://www.sycra.net click on resources. Browse the art discussion about similar problems u have with drawing and maybe it got already answered by professionels and asked by another user. Give the "crique this" section a chance. Buy books about drawing fundamentals that adds gaps of knowledlege about things u don´t know like drawing secrets. Look in youtube for drawing tutorials.
I know it´s not fun to do, like drawing from imagination but ppl will starve for more of ur creative mind once u stick with learning fundamentals to get better results.
Just spend more time on ur sketches, do study carefully and i promise u will improve in no time.

Have fun. Hope it helps
3. Semester now specialise on your strenght... but on what if there are so many? I guess it´s illustration for now.

 

Postby forteller11 » Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:44 am

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Sincere thanks for the feedback, really needed the direction,

I've been practicing (8 head) proportions recently by drawing a lot of stick figures, but still having a really hard time applying that to actually bodies in more natural gestures,
I want to get an anatomy book so I'm in the process of researching for the right one.

Not going to have as much time to do a lot drawing for the next couple of weeks but it's good to feel like I have a purpose when doing sketches now.
Thank You.

 

Postby forteller11 » Wed Jul 15, 2015 9:15 am

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Went on a road trip recently so couldn't do as much drawing as I usually would have, but I brought some sketchbooks and did some traditional sketches with a nice marker/pen I found.
A lot of the drawings (circle sketches and beyond) are from the past two days, and I felt like I was starting to be able to better draw figures in relatively dynamic poses with some basic proportions (although because I didn't draw construction lines (seldom had a pencil at hand) a lot of the figures were still hit or miss.

(Unfortunately some of my drawings were cut off by my printer but there was nothing I could do.)

Would love to hear some advice on how I could practice more effectively or what I could practice on.


Straphmore Misc. 1 001.jpg
Portable Sketch Book july 10.jpg
Portable Sketch Book july 10 e 001.jpg
I'm in the mountains!
(also, this sketch looked better when it wasn't blown up :(
Straphmore Cover 001.jpg
Another small blown-up sketch.
Portable Sketch Book misc. 2 001.jpg
straphmore july 10th 001.jpg
My Dad reading a story titled "A day of happiness"
I like drawing him because I think he has an interesting face, lol.
Straphmore july 13 001 copy.jpg
In my defense a lot of these circles were drawn in the car (on gravel roads) :P
Straphmore july 13th b 001.jpg
lol I hope circles are useful to draw
Straphmore july 13 c 001.jpg
I drew a dynamic pose off reference!!!
Straphmore july 14 b 001.jpg
Straphmore july c 001.jpg
more poses, some are competent!
(I like the figure on the bench in the bottom right)
Straphmore july d 001.jpg

 

Postby jachuu » Wed Jul 15, 2015 11:17 pm

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i love how much you draw :D it's really awesome to see so much work done and stuff. i think though that you might practice on drawing legs and feet, or the lower body in general cause i've noticed that the way the legs connect to the body is a little strange, plus the feet to the legs, etc. plus i think i see that you're drawing them rather big or thick too compared to the rest of the body

 

Postby Alphawolfin » Thu Jul 16, 2015 12:53 am

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Ouf that amount of drawlings just blew me away. Compared to you i´m the laziest shi*at ever... I see you´ve got a hard time on proportions which are still there even with practice hmmm... It seem hard for u to see the relations between bodyparts especailly lenght and width i suggest u to draw more simplyfing stuff specifically more stickfigures with constructing forms. Pay attention to every single part of it do gesture drawing on pixelovely. Or do silouhettes on stuff don´t detail stuff which are distracting u or u don´t really understand destroying the picture as whole when it´s dawn in wrong proportion.... these devilish details can consume a lot of valuable drawing time where u could have been spent on designing more figures. Letting details out in the beginning saves a lot of time i assume.

Yeah so many circles are good more control of pencil the more you do the better and confident u get i remember as a young kid i used to doodle just like that. And youre using less lines it´s not so messy like before u practice that. Everything is worth practice. Go on your on the right track.

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3. Semester now specialise on your strenght... but on what if there are so many? I guess it´s illustration for now.

 

Postby aprilhare » Thu Jul 16, 2015 4:23 am

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Oh my god you read Tokyo Ghoul? Isn't it amazing? :RE keeps building the suspense and I just want Kaneki to be Kaneki again. Anyways, your creatures look really cool. Keep working on the anatomy! :D
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Postby forteller11 » Wed Jul 29, 2015 9:24 am

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Again thanks so much for the feedback!
Also sorry for not replying to any comments, I wanted to but I was actually on another road trip and had no access to internet (also couldn't do much drawing either),but it's REALLY awesome to have people taking the time to help me improve :) {btw "Aprilhare" I agree Tokyo ghoul is pretty amazing lol}

Today instead of practicing fundamentals I decided to create a more finished piece: a weird little card for my Dad's upcoming birthday! :D
I know the idea itself isn't very interesting but I feel like the rendering and execution is arguably my best yet :)
I finally took advantage of Photoshop blending modes and I feel the end result really benefited.

Marcus mischief sketch 1.jpg
Mischief Version


MArcus B-D card unfinished 2.jpg
Pre painted/ pre rendered version


MArcus card JPG LOW DEF painting version.jpg
Final version


I posted the process of this painting because I felt uncomfortable with the workflow of adding color to a piece, my workflow ended up looking like this:
Sketching concept on mischief-->refining sketch on photoshop-->adding base colors--> adding color variation (ex. tinting the cheeks slightly red)-->shadows-->highlights-->cleaning the piece (erasing stray lines).
I have no idea if this is an OK way of doing things or not, any suggestions would be lovely.
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Postby forteller11 » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:01 am

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Alphawolfin wrote:Ouf that amount of drawlings just blew me away. Compared to you i´m the laziest shi*at ever... I see you´ve got a hard time on proportions which are still there even with practice hmmm... It seem hard for u to see the relations between bodyparts especailly lenght and width i suggest u to draw more simplyfing stuff specifically more stickfigures with constructing forms. Pay attention to every single part of it do gesture drawing on pixelovely. Or do silouhettes on stuff don´t detail stuff which are distracting u or u don´t really understand destroying the picture as whole when it´s dawn in wrong proportion.... these devilish details can consume a lot of valuable drawing time where u could have been spent on designing more figures. Letting details out in the beginning saves a lot of time i assume.

Yeah so many circles are good more control of pencil the more you do the better and confident u get i remember as a young kid i used to doodle just like that. And youre using less lines it´s not so messy like before u practice that. Everything is worth practice. Go on your on the right track.

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Thanks for the advice, I'll start to focus less on individual muscles and more on proportions and basic shapes/silhouettes when doing sketches now.
Also About the lines, I tend to find that when drawing traditionally I end up having WAY more control over my lines compared to my digital endevours... I was wondering if this is normal and will it always be this way or is this just an inevitable growing pain because i'm relatively new to digital art?

 

Postby Alphawolfin » Sun Aug 02, 2015 5:04 pm

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Yeah i know what u mean. Just plugging in your tablet doesn´t mean it works perfectly fine.
Vernier adjustment and geeking about the technical aspects of your tool is needed.
Just check if the driver works properly or calibrate the cursor on the monitor prevent it from being over the place...

On my tablet i do not have precision of lines or control about pen pressure and the painting program i use ain´t do the stuff i wish they would. It feels cold and odd using the technical tools a tablet. I prefer rather pen and paper or draw on screen (never tried that cintique before) for practice but i can´t deny there are much more possibiltys while drawing digitally and more color it´s clean and need little space to do stuff the digital world is of endless possibilitys working traditional can´t. The more time i spend on digital the more i began to love it.

Evenly digital or traditonal needs a lot of pracice to master. Fazit i´m on your side saying i prefer pen and paper too it´s easier to control can´t give up on traditional.
3. Semester now specialise on your strenght... but on what if there are so many? I guess it´s illustration for now.

 

Postby DancewithSHINee » Tue Dec 01, 2015 5:42 am

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Aside from what alphawolfin said, the ease of drawing on a tablet versus paper can take time getting used to. With time it won't feel so foreign. I know in my personal experience, I have used my tablet and stylus so often that now when I draw traditionally nothing seems right (and I think that also has to do with the fact that I can hit undo on a computer but I can't IRL)
Anyway, I'm pretty much babbling here. But I do have a critique for you, if you don't mind. I suggest getting away from grayscale and coloring for a while so you can focus on line quality and anatomy and perspective and all those things.
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Postby forteller11 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:15 am

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Well I haven't posted in this sketch book in months, which makes me sad, (mainly because I'm attending high school, and now when I draw it's usually on a sketchbook and my scanner isn't the right size and I don't usually have easy access of a camera)

Although I have been slowly accumulating some digital stuff which I'm planning on spamming down below xD
OCt 7.png


I was working on a game with a friend (he's a pixel artist and programmer,) and we were trying to come up with a simple idea which merged those art styles, sadly we just kind of lost motivation when it came down to the actually animation phase... But here are some of the sketches I did for the game ( I know some of them are pretty boring ideas but oh well)

Potential Enemies and bosses:
Pp Concept Art 2.png
Plutonium Pete anybody?! :P


Pp Concept Art 1.png


Brain Virus Jellyfish.png


Bunny Spider.png


HUmming bird thang.png
Hmm this one had potential


I think some of the creature designs had potential (although way to hard and complicated to actually animate practically into a game)
However I quickly learnt that turns out I have a really, really horrible sense of design, especially more graphic and fashion design stuff.... I really have to work on this in the coming months lol.

Sketches.png
My quality of line is soo bad in these sketches


Practicing using flash (Cringe)
Gamemaker test.png


Here I was trying to execute one of my creature concepts in flash so I could then animate
Wormy.png
Very different rendering style than my normal stuff


After we stopped working on the game I decided to try to finish another creature concept in photoshop
Glubbing Bird 2.png

Glubbing Bird 4.png
This guy makes me smile every time :)

Glubbing Bird Final.png
Ik I have to work on backrounds



Some illustrations I did for a children book in my class (there were 8 of them I had to do in one day, so I was extremely surprised that I managed to finish all of them in time)
Illistrations PAGE 2.png

Illistrations Page 9.png

Illustrations Page 6.png

Here's the cover of the "book" I did another day, looks kind of stiff and her face looks really dirty lol but I was still happy with the way it turned out.
Witch web.png


Experimenting colouring using flash or Photoshop and rendering styles stuffs.
Character Design - Blue.png
Colour comp is off I know

Character design Colour.swf.png

Bugger.png



Starting to try to draw more thumbnail-esk stuff because I never practice backgrounds of any sort and therefore my composition is in severe need of improvment
Dec 2b.png

 

Postby forteller11 » Mon Dec 07, 2015 6:42 am

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Some quick sketches I did today
Baker.jpg
Sliding Surprise.jpg

 

Postby forteller11 » Sun Jan 03, 2016 9:36 am

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A drawing I did for my school newspaper
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Postby forteller11 » Wed Feb 10, 2016 4:47 am

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My second head sculpt attempt in "Scupltris",

haven't gotten into texturing or rendering stuff yet so they skin material doesn't look that realistic yet...
So, hopefully that will change with more practice!
Head renderejjprng.png
Head renderejjpng.png
Head rendered j.png
Head rendered  b.png

 

Postby Alphawolfin » Tue Feb 23, 2016 2:43 pm

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Creepy those heads but likeable. :D
3. Semester now specialise on your strenght... but on what if there are so many? I guess it´s illustration for now.

 

Postby forteller11 » Sat Mar 19, 2016 7:44 am

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March 18.jpg
Walk cycle newbie.gif
Walk cycle newbie.gif

 

Postby forteller11 » Sun Mar 20, 2016 7:28 am

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Final result...

Walk cycle Final.gif


....How in the hell are there animators in this world?...

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